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Jingle support in Psi.

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2005-11-16, 19:33 by halr9000
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Kev (Administrator) 2005-12-16, 02:59 #1
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Subject: Voice Calling for Psi
Ok, publicising my blog shamelessly again:

http://www.kismith.co.uk/wordpress/index.php/2005/12/16/i-…

A summary:

The Jingle protocol (session and voice) is the culmination of months of discussion between the Google Talk team and interested parties in the JSF, which finally became standards-track yesterday. Jingle is basically the voice protocol supported by the Google Talk client.

The Google Talk team today announced the first release of a C++ library which manages the Jingle protocol. This means that other clients should be able to take this code and integrate Jingle support without coding the p2p and other details themselves.

In the last month or so, Sean Egan (one of the nice guys on the GT team (yes, they rock)) has been helping Remko and myself integrate the libjingle code in Psi ready for libjingle’s release today, meaning……voice calling for Psi. This is where a lot of Remko and my time has gone which might otherwise have been spent on visible Psi development.
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Kev (Administrator) 2005-12-16, 03:01 #2
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Subsequent to the blog post:
Psi<->Psi calling now seems to work fine as long as the speex codec is used and ilbc is not.

Transcript of the first Psi voice call:
"I'm pretty certain you can't hear me, I certainly can't hear you. Oh, you don't have a mic, that's right, oh well, so I think it's too broken for you to hear me anyway....oh, you're typing, what're you typing, oh you said 'I can hear you just fine, except that you're british' Oh. Bastard."
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halr9000 (Administrator) 2005-12-16, 03:36 #3
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Does this mean I have to talk to you?

Shameless blog advert: http://halr9000.com/article/247
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Kev (Administrator) 2005-12-16, 03:43 #4
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Given that you're a filthy Windows user, and that this is only Linux atm, nope.
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halr9000 (Administrator) 2005-12-16, 04:32 #5
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*whew*

Well I could run Linux in a Microsoft Virtual PC VM.  :)
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Fritzy 2005-12-16, 08:15 #6
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I can confirm that it does work.  Kev and Remko have obviously put a lot of work into this and they should be commended.  I look forward to seeing this grow into something for the masses.  At least it gives them something to do while waiting for the holdups on 0.10, not that they're running out of things to do.
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This is certainly excellent news and a big step forward for Psi that I'm sure everyone will benefit from - can't wait til it comes out for us filthy Windows users ;)

/me duly commends and thanks Kev and Remko and goes "YAY" lots - nice one guys :)
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spike (Administrator) 2005-12-16, 10:51 #8
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Quote by Kev:
Psi<->Psi calling now seems to work fine as long as the speex codec is used and ilbc is not.
In the mean time, somewhere between 4am and 5am local time, and a few small bugfixes later, another Psi<->Psi call has been made with the following transcript:
- This seems to be working
- *whispers* Not so loud, people are sleeping !
- *whispers* Is this better ?
- *whispers* Yes
- *whispers* Can i go to bed now ?
- Remko
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melo 2005-12-16, 11:11 #9
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Amazing news guys! Kev++, Remko++ :)

Congrats to all!

Remko, given that I'm a Mac user, using your night builds, can we expect to have something similar for this branch? I would do it, but compiling Psi on my 800Mhz powerbook is not something to look forward to :).
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spike (Administrator) 2005-12-16, 11:35 #10
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Quote by melo:
Remko, given that I'm a Mac user, using your night builds, can we expect to have something similar for this branch? I would do it, but compiling Psi on my 800Mhz powerbook is not something to look forward to :).
As much as i'ld love to have this right now (my pbook is the only computer with a decent mike), we'll have to either wait, or create our own Audio Engine for Mac and plug it into libjingle, because Mediastreamer doesn't work on
Mac. There are rumours of Google having someone working on porting Mediastreamer to Mac OS X, so we decided to wait and see, and in the meanwhile get it to work as it should under Linux. I thought it should work on Windows as well, but since Kevin claims it doesn't ...
- Remko
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Ok, given that Sapo is also sponsoring a Mac client, I'll look into that and see what can we do to help out porting that component to the Mac.

Thanks,
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Kev (Administrator) 2005-12-16, 18:49 #12
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And I've just had what is probably the world's first Jingle conversation across 'normal' Jabber servers, with Fritzy :)
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great job guys! thanks to you, psi is now the must use/must have communication tool #1 :) people not using psi must officially be nuts ;)

(If you can't share this thinking, please reread this post on psi 0.10 release day, thank you).
If you find any (coarse) mistakes in my English (e.g. grammar, sentence structure, wrong words used, misspellings that are not just typos, ...), please tell me. I appreciate any help in these matters.

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machekku 2005-12-16, 19:58 #14
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red_alert: I'll ask you to rewrite your post on the day of 0.10 release :P
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Quote by Kev:
And I've just had what is probably the world's first Jingle conversation across 'normal' Jabber servers, with Fritzy :)
And a few more details passed by on our MUC a bit ago:
[12:39:28 PM] <Kev> I'm having the world's first jingle call without using the google talk server
[12:39:56 PM] <halr9000> neat!
[12:41:16 PM] <michalj> so, how's the first Jingle call?
[12:41:20 PM] <michalj> working?
[12:41:56 PM] <Kev> yeah
[12:42:05 PM] <Kev> speex connection from me to fritzy
[12:42:16 PM] <Kev> using our plain jabber servers (not gtalk)
[12:42:58 PM] <Kev> I *think* we're the first people to do that
[12:43:02 PM] <Kev> anywhere in the world
[12:43:11 PM] <Kev> because no other client supports jingle yet that I know of
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